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Cardano Firesnake
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.18 04:00:00 -
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Like the Stabber before him...
I think the Zealot deserve 25 m3 of drone bay and 25 of bandwith.
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Cardano Firesnake
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
108
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Posted - 2014.03.18 06:11:00 -
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As big fleet ship the zealot is ok.
but in small gangs, or solo, the lack of drones and the fact it doesn't have hight utility slot give no option to fair escape.
So 5 small drones or a high utility would be great.
[Zealot, Pulse X2]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Medium Energy Burst Aerator I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
1662 m/s no drones a 45s autonomy without the Medium cap booster.
It is a joke.
[Omen Navy Issue, O-X1233]
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
For comparison... less dps but 1m 24 of autonomy, and 2291 m/s of base speed... |
Cardano Firesnake
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
109
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:45:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I want to see more ships without drones. You want to fly a ship with drones, then pick one with a drone bay.
If you think the drones on the Omen make it superior to the Zealot, then stop complaining and start paying less for your ships.
Laser ships are so dependant of their capacitor that there is no way to fly them witout a Capacitor Booster.
Without drones they cannot do DPS when they are out of capacitor. Minmatars do not have this problem.
They although all have drones.
ECM drones may be the only way to save your ship against a lone Assault Fregate.
It is a matter of balance between races and class ships...
Cruisers Battlecruisers have drones. It is for them a question of survability against smaller ships. Even with them a good fregate player can take on a Cruiser or even a Batlecruiser in certain circumstances... So let the Heavy Assault cruisers have the same chances.
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Cardano Firesnake
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
109
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:52:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:I agree with this, as any ninny in a frig with a TD and logpoint can pin one down and there's not a damn thing outside of good fits and fancy flying that can save them. So a frigate with a good fit shouldn't be able to tackle a cruiser that doeesn't have a good fit?
In fact almost all fregates can tackle a Zealot. It is not really matter of good fit.
No Medium laser can track a frig orbiting it. As it doesn't have High utility, only 3 medium slots, and no drone it just cannot take distance to shoot. |
Cardano Firesnake
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
109
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Posted - 2014.03.19 08:35:00 -
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Luwc wrote:sorry fellow goon friend.
but **** drones...
The zealot is fine.
You just dont know how to use it.
So fine that we don't see any zealot on the fields ;-)
Of course, in armor fleet with an AB and a lot of Logies, this ship is not so bad...
[Zealot, Pulse X3]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II or (Overdrive Injector to up the speed to 1502 m/s)
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II (or Tracking Computer II in fleet)
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
This one could be cool if its speed was not 1335 m/s and an align time of 10.6s
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Cardano Firesnake
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
109
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Posted - 2014.03.19 09:51:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Zealot doesn't need a cap booster.
If you fly it in AB fleet, that is true.
But in other cases, like almost all laser ships, a cap booster is needed.
If you have an armor repairer, a MWD, and Lasers, i don't see another choice than having a cap booster. |
Cardano Firesnake
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
111
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Posted - 2014.03.20 06:44:00 -
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Vesan Terakol wrote:I want to comment on a point made above about a ship being not equally fit for solo and fleet ops. Well, maybe some sips are designed to work better in groups, not every hull should be good for all jobs, especially t2 hulls, that are supposed to be specialized. You might notice, that most t2 lack utility high slots - that being just one example.
Yes but all other HAC have drones though except the Eagle...
These ships are the less specialized T2 ships.
Perharps CCP should remove all the drones on these ships and really focus them on one specialized weapon system...
But it is probably too late for that now and the Ishtar would be a big problem... |
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